Raiding

Managing Loot Council in Dragonflight and Beyond

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One of the more controversial loot systems for guilds is Loot Council. There’s nothing wrong with the system. Any issues with Loot Council has always revolved around people. As long as players and loot council understand that decisions are made in the best decision for the raid, everyone can sleep easily. Loot council doesn’t determine who gets what loot, it determines who gets what loot when. The last time I wrote about loot factors was about 14 years ago and I thought it deserved a refresh into today’s climate since we have all these new systems in place.

Depending on how geared your raid is, you can always opt to skip Loot Council for certain items. Some items that dropped from normal started out at 415 but many of our raiders were already wearing 421s or had higher equipped from Mythic dungeons earlier in the week. It may not be worth Loot Council’s time to manually sort those ones out for smaller sized items that offer little to no power gains. 

Resources

  • RC Loot Council (Addon): RC Loot Council is currently the addon of choice here due to Blizzard’s policy of eliminating master loot. This addon will cause every player to pass on loot and the loot master can initiate a loot window popup. 
  • Readycheck.io (Site: For your loot wishlists and spreadsheet)
  • wowaudit.com (Site: Alternative)

Voting options

Selection options can be quite contentious. Each guild I’ve been in has always had some variation on what the options were. In DJs, we have the following and here’s how I’d describe it:

  • BIS: Your best in slot item, period.
  • Main spec: This is an upgrade but it’s expected it will be replaced later.
  • Reroll: Player has the item already but wants to gamble for a socket or tertiary stats.
  • Offspec: Would be used for a different spec or role.
  • Tmog: Entirely for looks.
  • Pass: No interest in it whatsoever.

This encompasses most of our needs. There’s a little note icon on the far right. Most players don’t know about this, but you can leave a note about the item when you submit your selections. Maybe this completes a set bonus for you, as an example. Another case is that the trinket you’d like isn’t something you would use regularly but only in select situations like for Mythic+ or heavy encounters with lots of additional monsters. 

Selecting Council Members

In my previous guild, I tried to rotate people in loot council after every tier just to give everyone a crack at it. The number of people can range anywhere from 2 to 5. I don’t recommend going higher than that. Pick players who are knowledgeable at raiding and gearing, while being able to help prioritize what’s most beneficial for the raid (and yes, it’s possible to have two correct answers). Don’t put too many healers in there (you might need a few healers to help clear trash and it can be cumbersome to vote while healing). 

Let’s look at some of the factors that can influence loot decisions. 

Player Roles

DPS checks are a constant in any encounter. With enough firepower, you can skip phases before they become dangerous to the team. Most guilds that raid at the top level will award gear to DPS players first. The sooner the boss is defeated, the better. This changes when the raid encounters a specific healing check and they have to plan for that accordingly. Even then, this can be offset with another healer. Not only that, mythic plus is an available avenue for healers to acquire gear from. My Priest gets whatever unwanted gear from raid but I resort to camping out in mythic dungeons fishing for upgrades. Does it suck? Yeah, but that’s how it goes. I’ll get my raid upgrades later on in farm when DPS players aren’t in need of it. 

Player lineups

Think ahead to upcoming encounters and which players are most likely to see progression time and which ones aren’t. Are you really going to give a 2H weapon to a Warrior who you’re not going to start on Rashok progression in Mythic? Gear is only relevant if it’s going to be used. If a raider is going to be away for two weeks or they’re not going to be in on a hard boss coming up or for Mythic progression, then it doesn’t make sense for them to get upgrades right away. Send upgrades to the players who are in the starting lineup. 

Power gains

How big of an upgrade is the item in question? Is it from an LFR piece to a Heroic piece? These things have relevance too. Try to identify big power gains for players who haven’t been as lucky from dungeon or raid drops. Heading into Aberrus, we relied on 4-piece tier sims to get a better idea of relative power gains from set bonuses.  Generally, this is what most intermediate loot councils will look for as it’s often the easiest indicator to eyeball. Don’t get fooled though as there are some items which are simply too good to replace. The Mythic version of Seal of Diurna’s Chosen continues to be quite good for some despite other ring options available coming from Aberrus. 

Gear ranking and utility

I tend to use different gear based on what I’m doing. I have different gear for raid and dungeon content with different stats. There are items that will drop from raid which I wouldn’t normally use in a larger raid setting but that I would absolutely equip in a dungeon setting when pushing keys. I’d classify this as an offspec or a sidegrade type. There are some fun utility trinkets that may not be the best for player throughput but offer some neat functionality like Storm-Eater’s Boon or Ward of Faceless Ire. 

Trinkets and weapons

Big-ticket items like these represent huge power spikes. These ought to go to your heavy hitters here. In Aberrus, there are early raid and late raid items which correspond to different item levels. Most raiders will opt for the really good ones later on in the instance as they’re often higher item level than any of the stuff that drops early on. Still, don’t skimp on these. Even if they’re smaller upgrades, every stat helps. Raiders should at least mention that they’re upgrades even if it isn’t a best in slot item because the stats on these could represent the difference between a 0.5% wipe and a kill. Absolutely express interest in these even if it isn’t your best items. Upgrades are upgrades. 

Player seniority

Your raid is going to have its regulars and veterans, but most progression guilds will have a few trials. I would feel extremely uneasy if your big ticket items (late raid weapons, trinkets, tier, or other very rare items) went to a trial player in the raid over a veteran. Trial players are often an unknown quantity and have the potential to be a flight risk. Sometimes things don’t work out in the raid and both decide to part company, and any gear invested in them is lost. That being said, use some discretion and judgment. If it looks like a trial player is acclimating quite nicely with the community, participating often, and being a productive raider, they deserve something (and if this is the case, why are they still a trial?). Be sure to balance that with the veterans who’ve been on your roster for a long time and have been helping the team get to where they are now. Don’t neglect them. 

Set bonuses

Finishing 2 piece and 4 piece bonuses are huge power spikes for the raid for most classes and specs. Some classes have it better than other classes, so be sure to review and identify which ones are bigger gains. I know for a few specs, the 4 piece isn’t actually that great. Try to finish as many bonuses here for players. You’re sort of at the mercy of the raid gods here. Our first week in, we barely got any of the Venerated tokens (Priest token) on either of the two raid difficulties. 

Crafting replacements

We’re at the mercy of the new Sparks here that drop every couple of weeks. Most progression-oriented raiders will be aiming to get their weapons crafted at the highest level. I got my shiny staff upgraded this week even though it took me two sparks (I had terrible off hand luck). They’ll be using them for a while until well into mythic raid progression. Future crafted items will go towards embellishments. If the crafted embellishments are better than raid drops, then they might pass on loot that drops in raid. Tag these as minor upgrades at least because they can still contribute to stat upgrades until you get the crafted stuff made with the desired embellishments.

Error Decisions

Mistakes happen. Trust that your loot council will try to make decisions that benefit the raid. It’s possible that the information they have on hand isn’t accurate or something wasn’t properly updated. Or maybe they just screwed up. Information involves raiders being honest and mindful when they select their loot options. Your loot council is human and they will make mistakes especially when starting out for the first time. It’s a big switch going from DKP or personal loot or need rolling to a loot council system and not everyone is always going to agree.

Story: We had a Mythic Whispering Incarnate Icon drop and the decision was between two players: A Shadow Priest and a Hunter. Based on assorted factors, we assigned it to the Shadow Priest only to realize he was already wearing a Heroic Icon and our Hunter had not received one at any level yet! Oops! Once we were made aware of this, our council team reached out and expressed that we goofed without properly checking. It was too late to make the correction, but the team said they would find a way to correct that in the future. The lesson here is to inspect and confirm what eligible players are wearing before awarding that gear. 

Scenario

Here is a situation that can come up. Imagine there are two Hunters in the guild. You have Haydn on one side, and Pachelbel on the other.

Haydn has been a veteran raider with the raid over four expansions while serving in a leadership capacity. He makes a few odd gameplay mistakes here and there but has been a staple presence in the team offering insight and raid strategy while assisting players with whatever they need like extra gold for repairs, consumables for the forgetful, and stepping in for keys if the group is missing a player. In raid, his damage variance can swing from a top 5 performer to just the average player in the middle of everyone else. 

Pachelbel on the other hand just passed his trial. His decision making is sound, and his damage output is consistently at the top. He adapts to the situation in front of him and picks up new mechanics and responsibilities eagerly. He rarely takes avoidable deaths and has proven to be reliable when given a job to do. Even though he is new, Pachelbel is making a strong impact and helps the team in a big way with individual contributions. 

An extremely powerful cannon drops from the end boss which is the best weapon for both of them. Who would the weapon go to first? You could make strong arguments in favor of either Hunter. Sending the cannon to Haydn is a safe pick even though it may not be maximized to the fullest extent. You know it’ll stay in the raid team and Haydn has more than earned it with everything he does. But you know that if it were Pachelbel’s cannon, it would be wielded with extraordinary effect and fully utilized. Bosses would die that much faster and it would be beneficial with some tough encounters coming up soon in Mythic. Even though Pachelbel has been accepted, what if he decides that the guild isn’t a right fit for him after all and decides to part ways? Any gear gains would have been lost.

There’s no real right answer in this case, and decisions will always be subject to both personal ideology and raid values. Attrition is a constant and any raid can expect loot to be lost over time from players leaving. 

Loot sheets

I mentioned sites like Readycheck and WoW Audit as services that you and your raid team can use to determine what items best represent upgrades. Raiders need to go in there individually and can set which items are best for them (categorized by boss encounter). You can even set what the priority of it is such as your best item or major upgrade. Be sure to regularly visit and update it as you go. Don’t want your raid leader to get cranky with outdated information. Do you really need a weapon here once you’ve crafted your best weapon already? Expect raid leaders to build raid compositions based on need. If you don’t need an item from a boss, you might be able to take a seat and relax until you get called up. 

In an ideal world, when an item drops, your loot council already knows where it’s going to go and that’s where having loot sheets prepared in advance can help save time. 

WoW Audit lets you select which items you’re looking for by item slot or encounter. You can choose how significant of an upgrade a piece is. It even synchronizes with Raidbots. 

Readycheck is a similar idea and you have the option to add a note to any of the pieces you’re looking for. It doesn’t seem like there’s an option to sort the dashboard by item slot so you’ll have to go down the list of encounters. This one synchronizes directly with RC Loot Council. Any loot changes can be imported directly. 

Other tips

  • Never make tanks handle loot. It sucks, but I found more time is wasted if they’re busy handling loot instead of clearing trash. You can get away with healers though since there’s enough of them around that missing one wouldn’t impact trash healing.
  • Take your time, but not too much. It’s okay to ask for clarity if you have questions about item usage. 
  • Test your loot systems before raid. If you’ve never used RC Loot Council before, try it out in test mode. Experiment with the commands ahead of time. Run a small dummy raid with a few people.  
  • Set a chat channel. For loot, this can be done on in-game, in a dedicated community, or on Discord. Any discussion via in-game chat is going to get lost. Having that chatter on Discord can be better because you can refer back to conversations or even pin various spreadsheets and relevant links.
  • Be transparent to an extent. A loot council team does not need to go out of their way to explain every decision and why. They should indicate at minimum who is slated to receive them. It’s up to the team if they want to allow everyone to view the voting frame or not. They can even show which player that council members voted for. This isn’t a good idea because it may invite manipulation or second guessing. 
  • Problem? Talk to an officer. If you an encounter a questionable loot decision or something you wanted to learn more about, ask an officer about it. Express any concerns or misgivings you have. That’s what they are there to do. It’s okay to not agree with a decision, but once one has been made, that’s that. You should be permitted to express your thoughts because that’s the job of loot council.

Loot Council isn’t for everyone and if you don’t like the idea of the fate of your loot being completely out of your hands, then it’s time to move on and find a new guild that shares your loot philosophy. Thanks for reading! I hope this helps illuminate how a well run loot council can affect your raid and it’s progression. When done properly, it can maximize the raid’s output and durability. 

Idea: Could LFR Boss Mechanics Reward Gameplay?

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LFR has a reputation for being a raid mode that’s already mindless and easy. LFR Raszageth was an exception, but we’ll chalk that to a one-off. With today’s release of the second wing of Aberrus, everyone’s queuing in for a shot at tier and trinkets. On a Tuesday morning, I see that many of the players are choosing to ignore some of the mechanics and I’m sure that’s okay to do if you’re already geared and can survive a few things. I do catch the odd player here and there who’s not sure what’s going on or struggling when they’re targeted with certain abilities. What if there was a way to teach and incentivize the players in LFR to do certain things correctly?

At the end of Shadowlands (Season 4), all expansion raids were back in circulation but with some new affixes. If you completed the mechanics, you’d gain a buff whether it’s to haste or throughput or movement speed. That was a neat way to add some extra challenge and reward. Why not take that concept and introduce it to a few bosses and abilities in LFR that are staple mechanics that can be commonly found on other bosses? What I’m suggested is if players execute a given mechanic properly, reward the raid with a positive buff.

On this Rashok screenshot above, you can see Doom Flames is in the progress of being launched. Some of them are soaked, but others aren’t. Normally, any missile that doesn’t hit a player results in the whole raid taking damage per missed attack. If all of the pools are soaked, let’s provide the whole raid with 10 seconds of haste.

In Assault of the Zaqali, players can hurl these boulders over the edge at designated spots with the red column of light indicating there’s a wall climber ascending. One idea could be that if the raid successfully eliminates five wall climbers with boulders, everyone’s attacks has a chance to be duplicated onto one nearby target for 6 seconds.

When raid mechanics get missed, the healers are often punished because it’s on them to heal through what (admittedly little) damage goes out. At least this way, it provides extra onus to the DPS players. Experiments last stage involves Rionthus’ Temporal Anomaly where he gets a shield if the orb doesn’t get booted away and I guess that sort of punishes DPS players a bit as they have to punch through a shield. Anyway, the point here is the idea that proper execution can lead to a small, minor performance boost and players can feel good about themselves in the process. Hopefully, this will encourage better play that could translate to normal raid difficulty and above.

Matt’s Misplays: The Cardinal Rule of Raiding

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Welcome to this edition of Matt’s Misplays! It’s been quite warm and toasty this past week in my area. This must be what it’s like in Aberrus with all the fire and lava everywhere. Now that we’re progressing into Mythic raid, things are going to get interesting. I’ll start off with a recap and then let’s breakdown some incredible individual effort followed by some amazing lessons to learn. Big gains this week as we advance to 3/9 Mythic!

  • The cardinal rule of raiding: Our GM frequently emphasizes this lesson frequently during raid especially if we die to it. In most cases, the best way to survive a mechanic is to not get caught. If I die to a breath, or a puddle, or a fire, I can hear that booming voice in the back of my head, “Position! Position! Position!“. Did you die to an ability? If so, chances are, it could’ve been avoided had you been in a better spot. This goes back to a recent post about climbing up to the CE level raider. Focus on movement and positioning, and everything will become easier.
  • Almost in tiers: This was our second week of full clearing normal and heroic. We jammed both raids with 30 players to maximize loot drops. We asked friends and alts from other teams to come in. They get an easy crack at vault slots, but they would have to surrender all dropped gear. Normal was cleared in about 55 minutes and Heroic took us a little over an hour. Every player with the exception of one is now in possession of 4 piece tier. It was impressively efficient.
  • Big early progression: We cleared 2 additional bosses on Mythic and we’re sitting pretty at 3/9 with Assault of the Zaqali and Amalgamation Chamber cleared! After these first bosses are cleared, there’s a big step up in difficulty.
  • Recruiting: We’re looking to add a Warrior as well as some ranged DPS (Mage and a Hunter). Check us out here!

Anyway, let’s check out some lessons for this week!

Kazzara is the first boss here and we didn’t get any looks at it last week partly because we just blew it up so fast that any errors were just washed over anyway. On Mythic, that isn’t much of an option. Lines that touch other lines or smaller fire puddles will explode so you have to communicate with the team and indicate which direction you’re going.

Here’s the thing. Like I’ve told many an ex, I’m not psychic. If I can’t figure out what restaurant my ex wants to go to, then I can’t tell which player’s going where or which puddle they’re trying to take their beam to. This encounter mechanic will expose players who may have brute-forced their way into mythic guilds in the past by virtue of overloading on gear. This early in a tier, not only does everyone need to play mechanics and survive, communication is just as important.

In this example, range players are instructed to stay further out to draw puddle spawns and lasers away. There needs to be some space between puddles to allow for lasers to get dropped. We have enough raid damage that we don’t need to maximize spawn locations, and yet the team was ingrained in trying to minimize gaps. However, at this stage of the fight, the range players are playing a little too close. Sure enough, the raid gets punished. GM was not happy about that. We all knew better. We’re going to explore a strategy change though to see if we can alleviate some of the positioning stress and give more room for everyone to work with because we can do better. No bubble tea for anyone (yet)!

On Experiments, Neldris has a Rending Charge that will force him to cut through specific players in sequential order. Depending on how they are positioned, it is possible for the same person to get hit more than once. In this clip, 1 goes to the back which forces 2 to get the bleed twice. Although it’s possible that Neldris manages to squeak through both the diamond and the triangle players it looked extremely close. What should happen here is that the first hit needs to be on the mark closer to the middle guaranteeing that each player only gets struck once with one bleed application each. This is a small positional blunder but easily resolvable.

Heroic Sarkareth with 30 people is like healing in a slow-moving Powerpoint presentation with a more fierce-sounding Clippit calling positions and cooldowns. This one was a bit of a brain fart. Our poor Monk gets Infinite Duress but confuses it with a bomb and goes to stand in a puddle! Big oops! Luckily, he realizes his mistake and runs to the edge but it’s too late. The dispel is cast but he takes lethal damage and dies a true Monk’s death – Not with a bang, but with a whimper. This is revenge for all the Divine Hymns that were sniped by Revive!

You absolute ding dong!

I demonstrated this one last week. Can’t get cut off here, even if it’s the phase 2 into phase 3 transition. You’re missing all that damage uptime! C’mon man, you should know better. Good effort by the Mage to blink in but gets bounced off (twice, I think). Really though, the moment the rock walls were reforming, stop what you’re doing, and just get in position ahead of time. Stop being greedy! This is not the time to be greedy!

Most Valuable Panda

But it wasn’t all terrible this week. We’ve got some solid plays as well.

This one might be hard to see, but here’s a look at Amalgamation Chamber. We’ve just entered the second phase and there are individual circles that need to be soaked (left). The Death Knight urgently alerts the team and starts heading over there. He correctly deduces that he has the movement speed of a slug and calls for help, “Need a solo soak, [back side purple]”. Our Demon Hunter quickly pounces on it thereby saving the attempt and preventing a wipe. The combined efforts of these two get a gruff nod and a grunt of approval.

Positive, impactful plays don’t necessarily show up on the meters. Sometimes it isn’t about who blasted out the most damage or who outright crushed healing. An innocuous communication like the above example demonstrates teamwork that is just enough to secure a progression kill. Without that call and that reaction, this is a wipe. Hope you enjoyed the highlights and the lessons from this week!

 

Matt’s Misplays: Welcome to Aberrus!

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Welcome back, everybody! It’s been quite an eventful week with the season 2 launch of new dungeons! Of course, with a new season means a new raid and we step foot in Aberrus, the playground of Neltharion.

Or something.

What an opening week for Death Jesters though. We spent the past two weeks preparing for Aberrus and it paid off in a big way. We cleared 9/9 in normal, then followed up with a 9/9 Heroic, and finished it off with a 1/9 Mythic kill. This was all done in 6 hours and did not require another day. I can’t remember the last time I secured a week 1 Ahead of the Curve achievement. All in all, we distributed over 110 pieces of loot. Sadly, no tier for your favourite Panda Priest but that’s okay. Priority to the DPS first. The faster stuff dies, the less we need to heal.

Anyway, let’s get into it, shall we?

It’s a new raid. There’s new bosses. There’s new mechanics and new abilities. I’ll go a little easy this week.

… Or will I?

Let’s move up to the third encounter that is the Forgotten Experiments. We tackle the dragon versions of Larry, Moe, and Curly. We have the last dragon (Curly) in the air about to strafe the raid. We manage to survive the initial run, but then run back in and manage to bait it back on the return trip.

Oops!

We should have waited on either side for the dragon to pass by and reach the end. Then we can visually track it and see which lane it picks (hopefully one of the outer lanes keeping the middle free). Instead, middle gets strafed again and you can see a few of our players get essentially get bodychecked because they did not keep their head up. The lesson here is to keep your head up and track where the dragon is at all times.

Here we have Rashok and I guarantee you every guild has made this mistake at least once. As raiders, we’re so ingrained to maximize location economy that overlapping circles next to each other so that we have real estate to work with in the arena. Unfortunately, Blizzard likes to remind us that they can break the rules. Here you can see a Rogue deploy his Grappling Hook out into the wall but he just barely misses making the side step adjustment causing the circles to touch and detonating the raid!

Needless to say, we have not made that error since.

Keep your circles at least one panda away from each other.

Here is the Amalgamation Chamber. Players on the Void side get targeted and drop off a giant purple circle. We have our multi-dotters in the middle hitting both the flame and void elemental. Of course, our genius Shadow Priest gets a circle and then… proceeds to travel in the direction of Middle Earth.

Take it backwards, my dude! Missing out on potential damage by dropping that circle off far away like that.

Look at this idiot Panda who completely whiffs a rock throw in Assault of the Zaqali. Either that, or the Zaqali Spiderman just shrugged off the rock I dropped over the side. Anyway, I guess the boulder is thrown in the column based on where the player character is as opposed to where the character is facing.

Let’s move onto Echo of Neltharion which might be the first real, uh… wall that a raid faces. Not everything listed is going to be a misplay. If I recognize a great play, I’ll point that out too. Here is a risky move that paid off. Due to an earlier misplaced fire patch, the raid has no room to go to stay out of the impending fire circles. Our lone Evoker makes the quick thinking play to pop defensives and proceeds to stand in the fire. I did track that and managed to slam as many heals into him before he was able to fly back to group safely.

That is a raid-saving play. But as a team, we should have never put him in that position to begin with.

Some further unfortunate miscommunication here leads to the raid getting split in half. Let this be a lesson in heavy movement encounters to telegraph or direct traffic in advance if you have to make a change. There’s no way we can handle traversing the big fire patch and now we’re cut off away from everyone else resulting in a wipe. This is an example of the raid needing to do a large move fast to get in front and we failed to do that here.

This above is what should happen. Tanks hulk smash their way through a wall in the direction they want the team to rush through and then drag Neltharion back in the other direction to minimize the fire patch. Keep up this same pattern during the phase 1 push.

There are two examples above here. Again, further miscommunication on our end. We’re instructed to “get inside, get inside!” but we interpreted that as getting inside to the center whereas the intent was to get inside the rock walls where the raid needs to go before the walls come up. Check your terminology here and find a way to distinguish between the rock walls (that are breakable) and outside walls (which is the arena room walls). Make sure your raid understands the difference because if you tell someone with the purple arrow to run to a wall, they need to know which one it is. In most cases, it’s going to be the outside wall since you won’t need them to break any of the rock walls.

Clearly state what your intentions are for the raid by being simple and direct. Phrases like “move to green marker” or “move away from blue” are simple and will work. It also helps to actually have markers down to direct traffic.

Oh noooooo! We left a man behind! When you start seeing the larger orange swirls appear, that is your cue to stop what you’re doing because the walls are about to come up momentarily. You cannot greed your casts in this situation or else you get punished by being isolated from the rest of the raid.

It’s okay, the walls came down about 30 seconds later as we changed phases. This one’s on me.

I did have an opening to grip him over with plenty of time but I just… didn’t.

Every Holy Priest’s worst nightmare comes true here. A Divine Hymn is scheduled to come up during this soak and I proceed to start the channeled cast, but I’m forced to move and interrupt it in order for Hurtling Barrage to be pointed outward.

Actually, I think I had time here before the barrage would come through. So this is on me for taking it too safe and not being greedy. I had time to finish the Hymn then move out. Alternatively, wait for Hurtling Barrage to target, then cast it.

Let’s analyze this phase one death for a second because I see this situation come up often. The player has a Mass Disintegrate and they need to stay still for their team to get rid of their Echoing Howl. A fire is about to land on them and they risk lethal. But if they move out of it, they risk messing up any players that have to clear.

My play would be to rotate character 90 degrees and strafe left (this would move me away from the boss at 100% move speed instead of simply backpedalling at a slower speed). I don’t know if immunities would move the Distintegrate to another target or something.

In actuality, this was a miss by healers because we did not burst this player to full health fast enough causing them to get zapped by the beam (but the fire would’ve melted them anyway if they weren’t going to move). I need to add a frame glow for the target.

It took me about two pulls before I successfully wrapped my head around Infinite Duress. Most healers are quite trigger-happy with their dispel but that’s a mistake. In this example, I get bailed out here by an evoker. I knew I was supposed to run that out, but I mentally spaced and ran it in the wrong direction. Had I been dispelled here, it would’ve knocked the rest of the team off the platform. Instead, I get positioned in such a way that the dispel knocks the team further inward keeping them safe.

I love this moment above because it actually proves that contrary to popular belief, Ret Paladins can think! Watch as our intrepid wannabe warrior steps out and realizes that getting dispelled in his position is going to knock the raid into the two circles. He shuffles over and the dispel is clear to go off resulting in the team getting knocked to safety.

You can figuratively see the gears turn in this one. He literally stops, pauses, and then moves.

At the same time, I have to point out that this is the same man who randomly just speed horse’d into the Terros hole for no reason.

However, not to be outdone, our resident Enhancement Shaman learns from the previous play and beelines it straight to the safe spot. He’s a chess master and has already thought 3 moves ahead. He reached that conclusion way faster than our previous Ret Paladin did. This is an example of learning from other player’s mistakes.

It’s unfortunate that they’ll continue to be overshadowed and recognized primarily for their use in raid as a glorified Windfury dispenser.

That’s all the misplays for this week! I hope you had a good chuckle at a few of these, but more importantly, I implore you to learn from our mistakes. I’m here to help teach you to become better decision-makers in raid. All in all, this is a fun instance with mostly single targets. Great raid to head into the summer with. In the mean time, we are looking to recruit some players to help us in the summer months for Aberrus. We’re looking to add a Mage and a Hunter. Check us out and apply here!

Matt’s Misplays: The Vault Farewell Tour

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Happy May, everybody!

Welcome to this edition of Matt’s Misplays. This week, we say farewell to Vault of the Incarnates. Not a bad introductory raid for Dragonflight, wouldn’t you say?

But hey, it’s official! I’ve officially received my 8/8 Mythic Vault of the Incarnates achievement. I insisted that really it was no big deal if I didn’t get Dathea down on Mythic. I could always come back to it in 3 expansions. But no, no, no, the raid couldn’t have that. They practically voluntold me in there even though I felt Dathea was worse than Rasz.

Let’s start at Terros.

In hindsight, this grip may not have been necessary. Broccoli over here looked like they were close enough to the portal, but Panda didn’t want to leave it to chance. There’s plenty time before the Annihilation where there isn’t a lot of action going on and range players have to get close and be prepared to hit the portal. Otherwise you run into situations like this where we have stragglers.

In this situation, an all in play has been called. The tanks have been instructed to NOT blow up the pillars because there may not be any defensives left to use and the concern is that Terros gets defeated before the pillar damage overwhelms the group. Unfortunately, this carries a risk. A slam is about to happen and the melee group is trapped. To their right is a wall of pillars. In front of them is a giant hole. To the left is a sea of brown dirt. The only safe move is behind them into that little sliver of safe zone goodness. Good players identify this fast and can move into there the moment the circle appears. Risky players pop a defensive and dodge left before returning to safety.

And then you have Paladins who just don’t care and pop bubble while shrugging off the damage anyway.

Moving on to Sennarth is another set of problems as there’s a greater focus on positional play.

The run up the stairs from platform to platform is often one of the trickier ones. On the first set of stairs, it’s possible for the spider grip to come out and snatch people to their doom. Great Priests knows to look behind and camp at the top of the stairs just to help catch any stragglers. A common Life Grip technique is to target a player ahead of time if you think they’re going to need it. In this example, I managed to fish out the Shaman behind the cyclone and then grip them to safety after they crossed my screen from right to left. If I grip earlier, I run the risk of pulling the Shaman into the cyclone.

Here’s another example but from the perspective of the gripped target. I actually think what happened is that the Paladin was pulled through the cyclone which launched them into the air. But Taurens are huuuuuge! It was easy to pick out a big, jumbo Tauren Paladin in mid-air as they go flying from one side of the monitor to the other. Not that I think they’re too large or anything, but they could afford to cut down on the boba tea.

I’m more amazed about this play myself. The hunter manages to disengage back on, but it might’ve been a touch too early or they disengaged into that tornado. It slowed them enough to fall into the abyss, but this Panda was able to target them quick enough to get them back to safety. I credit thousands of hours playing CS:GO and Call of Duty. Who knew clicking heads could translate to raid, right? Now had that player been a Gnome-sized model, they would not have had a chance.

A Priest who’s able to make player-saving plays like that consistently is going to be an asset on your raid team.

However, any raid leader worth their salt would be disappointed. The most important point my GM has ever drilled into anyone on the roster is to always be in the right position. A great raider knows to never be in such a vulnerable spot to begin with. The Warlock gate placed there is near the inside track close to Sennarth. With timers, players should be aware that there is a pull-in coming soon. Either accelerate your movement so that you’re safe ahead of time or if you don’t think you can make it up the stairs, quickly move laterally towards the outside to buy as much time as possible to fight the pull-in. Staying inside while applying boss damage up the stairs is extremely risky unless you have an out (such as an Alter Time) and can be punishing.

Can’t stop stressing movement fundamentals no matter what boss you’re working on. Players will periodically drop webs. In this example, the Evoker commits an error and just drops webs that cover the narrow portion of the bridge slowing people that need to cross (like our resident Panda). We instruct our players to try to handle this in one of three ways:

  1. Use a defensive and drop it in the same spot
  2. Make a small circle with it so you’re still moving and not taking as much damage
  3. Move in an east-west pattern (facing Sennarth)

What you don’t want to do is move north-south (from the back of the room towards Sennarth), because now you’ve slowed down and cut off the path for anyone looking to advance across the room. Expect more of these types of mechanics in future raids. It’s not enough to ensure survivability when dropping pools of danger. You have to consider how your pools will impact your team. Don’t be the guy that messes with the team and loses them boba tea privileges because you screwed up.

This is a look at the first phase of Kurog where we handle the fire altar. What we’re trying to do is stack together and bait all the fire pools in one area then move. We have just finished recovering from a Searing Carnage and you can see a Warlock coming in from the right desperately trying to get back with the group. Unfortunately, they were a touch too slow and you can see a fire pool does target them. Not exactly optimal for the soak person because now they have to run into that orb after they soak the neatly stacked orbs.

Another big no-no moment is you can see a player taking an early lead off (keep your eye on the range group and watch the left side) and moving to the left before the fire pools actually spawn. We get away with one here because we’re lucky they didn’t get a pool spawn and cutting off the range team. Our Panda should have held left strafe key, but was anticipating a pool drop on the left just in case and responded with a screen rotationg to the right, then strafe right for maximum speed to safety before rejoining the team after. This is the kind of thing raiders can get smacked with a rolled-up magazine over. Do not cheat and pre-move in order to bait puddles because you can screw up the raid. Had we been punished, it would’ve resulted in no boba tea for anyone.

With any kind of soak mechanic, we have a standing instruction. The first player that’s in the soak takes it unless told otherwise. Here we see a lightning pool spawn on Panda and a hunter coming in from right to left. There’s a thought process where the Hunter can take Panda’s pool, and then Panda can shuffle left and take that pool. Luckily, a Warlock sneaks up and soaks that one then it’s a simple step back for our Panda to soak lightning again. Early on in progression, healers were asked to never soak lightning pools because it ran the risk of the Thunder ad teleporting over to it and taking it out of cleave range. But with gear upgrades, that is no longer a factor as the Thundering ad will die before it gets another teleport off.

The double donut during the earth altar is where most groups tend to lose ground. It often boils down to tank spacing and tank timing. Our tanks are able to split the Earth ad and Kurog apart to give the raid optimal space to work with. One donut goes off first, then the other donut. Inexperienced raiders can panic as they attempt to try to process dealing with two donuts at the same time. However, a veteran raider will know to only deal with them one by one. In this sequence, Panda commits to the right side donut and allows that one to wash over before sidestepping into the second donut. Be patient, take these slow, and deal with it as it comes. Trying to do both at the same time is extremely risky and often unnecessary. But credit to the tanks for peeling away from each other and giving the raid maximum space and time to work with.

Intermission 2 ads are straightforward. With the earth circles, Panda made the mistake of going in the same direction as the other two. When dealing with circle drop mechanics like this, and with no better option, try to park in the… uh, crack of the other two so that you don’t risk overlapping. What a heads-up play to get gripped back into the group though (I don’t know who snatched the Panda, but good job). It’s nice to get gripped and panda handled once in a while. Wasn’t expecting that otherwise would have gripped another player who had the earth soak on the outside back in as well.

Okay, last misplay here on Broodkeeper. I actually don’t know what happened here. Evoker just … dashed into a lightning circle?

Hello?!

Evokerbrain?!

Anyway, I thought that was kinda funny so I just had to include it.

That’s it for this week! No raiding for us as we take the week off and prepare for Aberrus. For you raid leaders, there are some new resources to check out.